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	<title>Comments on: Baby Jesus violation meme</title>
	<link>http://www.aigarius.com/blog/2008/04/24/baby-jesus-violation-meme/</link>
	<description>Mindblogging the world to itself</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Walther</title>
		<link>http://www.aigarius.com/blog/2008/04/24/baby-jesus-violation-meme/#comment-120124</link>
		<author>Walther</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.aigarius.com/blog/2008/04/24/baby-jesus-violation-meme/#comment-120124</guid>
		<description>There is a difference between having an opinion and hurting somebody by expressing your opinion in a rude way.

I don't understand why people shouldn't be offended by something like this. If I would say these things about someones wife/girlfriend/mother/kid chances are they would be offended too.
The question is not if I think that persons girlfriend exists, but if he thinks his girlfriend is real. In which case I would very rude and in some countries I could even get fined or sued.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a difference between having an opinion and hurting somebody by expressing your opinion in a rude way.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand why people shouldn&#8217;t be offended by something like this. If I would say these things about someones wife/girlfriend/mother/kid chances are they would be offended too.<br />
The question is not if I think that persons girlfriend exists, but if he thinks his girlfriend is real. In which case I would very rude and in some countries I could even get fined or sued.</p>
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		<title>By: Stoffe</title>
		<link>http://www.aigarius.com/blog/2008/04/24/baby-jesus-violation-meme/#comment-120085</link>
		<author>Stoffe</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.aigarius.com/blog/2008/04/24/baby-jesus-violation-meme/#comment-120085</guid>
		<description>No contemporary historians, authors or scribes or indeed any documents mention this "Jesus" character.

You see, "Jesus was a real person, that is proven" is actually a meme, spread by religious people (who are almost the only ones ever investigating this). They have kept on repeating this as if it was so self-evident that noone should ever doubt this obvious fact, and so a lot of people parrot this "truth" and the religious types never have to come up with any evidence.

They win, truth loses. Ask anyone of them to ACTUALLY provide ANY scrap of evidence, not just say "there's no reason to doubt his existence". There's every reason. Not to mention the extremely differing accounts in the new testament, all of which are proven to be written based on each other... (oops, shouldn't have blurted that w/o reference, no matter, ignore that and read the rest if you wish).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No contemporary historians, authors or scribes or indeed any documents mention this &#8220;Jesus&#8221; character.</p>
<p>You see, &#8220;Jesus was a real person, that is proven&#8221; is actually a meme, spread by religious people (who are almost the only ones ever investigating this). They have kept on repeating this as if it was so self-evident that noone should ever doubt this obvious fact, and so a lot of people parrot this &#8220;truth&#8221; and the religious types never have to come up with any evidence.</p>
<p>They win, truth loses. Ask anyone of them to ACTUALLY provide ANY scrap of evidence, not just say &#8220;there&#8217;s no reason to doubt his existence&#8221;. There&#8217;s every reason. Not to mention the extremely differing accounts in the new testament, all of which are proven to be written based on each other&#8230; (oops, shouldn&#8217;t have blurted that w/o reference, no matter, ignore that and read the rest if you wish).</p>
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		<title>By: daven</title>
		<link>http://www.aigarius.com/blog/2008/04/24/baby-jesus-violation-meme/#comment-120022</link>
		<author>daven</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.aigarius.com/blog/2008/04/24/baby-jesus-violation-meme/#comment-120022</guid>
		<description>epic win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>epic win.</p>
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		<title>By: Haxe</title>
		<link>http://www.aigarius.com/blog/2008/04/24/baby-jesus-violation-meme/#comment-119917</link>
		<author>Haxe</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.aigarius.com/blog/2008/04/24/baby-jesus-violation-meme/#comment-119917</guid>
		<description>As for Jesus' existence as a real person: Whatever :-)

As for the US/non-US discussion: I am from Germany, so one more non-US participant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for Jesus&#8217; existence as a real person: Whatever <img src='http://www.aigarius.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As for the US/non-US discussion: I am from Germany, so one more non-US participant.</p>
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		<title>By: Horizon</title>
		<link>http://www.aigarius.com/blog/2008/04/24/baby-jesus-violation-meme/#comment-119897</link>
		<author>Horizon</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.aigarius.com/blog/2008/04/24/baby-jesus-violation-meme/#comment-119897</guid>
		<description>Amen!

&#62;_&#62;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen!</p>
<p>&gt;_&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: David Love</title>
		<link>http://www.aigarius.com/blog/2008/04/24/baby-jesus-violation-meme/#comment-119887</link>
		<author>David Love</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.aigarius.com/blog/2008/04/24/baby-jesus-violation-meme/#comment-119887</guid>
		<description>I find it personally offensive that you dare to suggest Donald Duck and Terminators are fictional characters.  After all, not too long ago Donald and I saved the universe from both the Heartless AND the Nobodies (you ungrateful person)!

And don't get started on how hard I busted my ass to save that Connor brat from killer thinking machines...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it personally offensive that you dare to suggest Donald Duck and Terminators are fictional characters.  After all, not too long ago Donald and I saved the universe from both the Heartless AND the Nobodies (you ungrateful person)!</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t get started on how hard I busted my ass to save that Connor brat from killer thinking machines&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www.aigarius.com/blog/2008/04/24/baby-jesus-violation-meme/#comment-119872</link>
		<author>Anon</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.aigarius.com/blog/2008/04/24/baby-jesus-violation-meme/#comment-119872</guid>
		<description>I fucking lol'd!

+1 internets to you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fucking lol&#8217;d!</p>
<p>+1 internets to you!</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Hayter</title>
		<link>http://www.aigarius.com/blog/2008/04/24/baby-jesus-violation-meme/#comment-119823</link>
		<author>Adrian Hayter</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.aigarius.com/blog/2008/04/24/baby-jesus-violation-meme/#comment-119823</guid>
		<description>Haxe,

There actually aren't that many records of Jesus around the time he supposedly lived. A lot of stuff started coming out 40 years after his death which makes no sense. Jesus shares the same attributes as a load of other gods and is a fictional character. Watch "The God Who Wasn't There" for more proof, or read articles on the "Jesus Myth".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haxe,</p>
<p>There actually aren&#8217;t that many records of Jesus around the time he supposedly lived. A lot of stuff started coming out 40 years after his death which makes no sense. Jesus shares the same attributes as a load of other gods and is a fictional character. Watch &#8220;The God Who Wasn&#8217;t There&#8221; for more proof, or read articles on the &#8220;Jesus Myth&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: aigarius</title>
		<link>http://www.aigarius.com/blog/2008/04/24/baby-jesus-violation-meme/#comment-119822</link>
		<author>aigarius</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.aigarius.com/blog/2008/04/24/baby-jesus-violation-meme/#comment-119822</guid>
		<description>I guess I am US-centered lately and am blinded by that from time to time. I apologize to Russell for implying that he is from US. (Not that all people from US are religiously irrational.) The nanny-state and its political correctness wing is spread out beyond US, but that is where I mostly see it happening.

And from what I've seen there are documents mentioning that there were people with name 'Jesus' around the described time period, but their relation to the described tales can not be determined conclusively as most sources only start to mention the while thing a couple centuries after the fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I am US-centered lately and am blinded by that from time to time. I apologize to Russell for implying that he is from US. (Not that all people from US are religiously irrational.) The nanny-state and its political correctness wing is spread out beyond US, but that is where I mostly see it happening.</p>
<p>And from what I&#8217;ve seen there are documents mentioning that there were people with name &#8216;Jesus&#8217; around the described time period, but their relation to the described tales can not be determined conclusively as most sources only start to mention the while thing a couple centuries after the fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Kaplowitz</title>
		<link>http://www.aigarius.com/blog/2008/04/24/baby-jesus-violation-meme/#comment-119798</link>
		<author>Jimmy Kaplowitz</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.aigarius.com/blog/2008/04/24/baby-jesus-violation-meme/#comment-119798</guid>
		<description>Hi Aigars. I agree with most of what you wrote, but I have no idea why you're bringing the US into this discussion. None of the participants in this discussion except for me (and possibly Haxe) are Americans. Not Russell, not Matthew, and not you. I don't object to the US being mentioned in general, but any "over-offensiveness" here is not reflective of anything American.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aigars. I agree with most of what you wrote, but I have no idea why you&#8217;re bringing the US into this discussion. None of the participants in this discussion except for me (and possibly Haxe) are Americans. Not Russell, not Matthew, and not you. I don&#8217;t object to the US being mentioned in general, but any &#8220;over-offensiveness&#8221; here is not reflective of anything American.</p>
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